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Podcast Season 2 Episode 4: Off Escalator Relationships

"I mean, really I just want to scream it from the rooftops that I love these humans - that's my important thing."

The Relationship Escalator is a strong cultural imperative even beyond monogamous culture to make sure your relationship keeps "going somewhere"- that you go through all the steps of dating, "getting serious," getting engaged, getting married, having kids, getting a house, and being together forever til death do you part at that pinnacle. Polyamory inherently assumes that not all relationships must do this; in fact, that no relationships need do this. So, outside of these cultural norms, what markers do we use to measure the progress of our relationships? What milestones do we embrace? This is an essentially personal decision in each relationship, but this week's podcast tries to give some food for thought on the topic.

Today's discussion is between our blog author & host, Laura, and her telemour, Meadow Perry, who have both found themselves intentionally building off-escalator relationships in recent years following breakups with spouses and nesting partners. Faithful readers of the blog at may remember Meadow's guest post, Love is Not A Loaf of Bread.

Meadow Perry is a Philadelphia-based Magician, Bubble Artist, and Actress who has been performing in various venues for 15 years. She has been in polyamorous relationships for three years, and during the pandemic, in addition to being booked for socially distanced and virtual group events, she has been putting on her own virtual shows. You can find information on her work in general at and click here for tickets to her hour-long virtual Bubble Magic show on February 5.

As always, we are grateful to our Patrons for helping keep the boat afloat and if you'd like to join them you can do so at, or one-time coins in the hat may be left at The wonderful intro and outro music is provided by the talented Vince Conaway, who can be found at

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